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Fake Chinese CPUs
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Jeff Gaines
2024-11-17 10:29:40 UTC
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I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P motherboard.
I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via eBay but there are
Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them as well.

Anybody know if these are likely to be real, one of the pictures looks
exactly the same as an Intel one but it doesn't have "Intel" printed on it.
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Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
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The Natural Philosopher
2024-11-17 10:45:48 UTC
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I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P
motherboard. I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via
eBay but there are Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them
as well.
I would be extremely suspicious of chinese semiconductors. I have had
bad experiences with them

My suspicion is that its the old Sinclair Radionics game - Buy rejects
and stamp them as good.

Plenty of Intel i7 6700 on UK ebay and elsewhere.

You can probably buy a whole used computer with one for less than the
cost of a brand new processor
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Theo
2024-11-17 11:42:08 UTC
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Post by Jeff Gaines
I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P motherboard.
I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via eBay but there are
Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them as well.
I'm in the market for an i7-6700k. They crop up every day on ebay.
(taking my time because the going rate is 50 quid and I'm not in a hurry)

Were you buying them and finding they don't work, or something else?
Post by Jeff Gaines
Anybody know if these are likely to be real, one of the pictures looks
exactly the same as an Intel one but it doesn't have "Intel" printed on it.
I think they're likely to be real (ie not just a lump of ceramic), but they
could be re-marks of other parts or 'engineering samples' that are shipped
to manufacturers in advance of production silicon being available. ES can
have bugs or not be clocked as high as production silicon, and not be
supported by Intel/etc.

I think some cloud vendors and supercomputers tend to use parts under a
special deal with the manufacturer and they get samples, early production
silicon, special SKUs or something like that. When the supercomputer is
decommissioned those parts end up on the used market. They still work, but
they're a bit different from production parts.

For current production parts I'd be worried about fakes, but for boring
parts from 8 years ago it's likely from some kind of decommissioned system -
maybe e-waste, maybe ex-cloud. Could also be a reject of some kind. But it
seems if you're going to 'fake' CPUs you'd do it on recent parts, not 8 year
old ones. It's quite possible they're genuine but are just recycled from
scrapped corporate boxes.

Check Youtube for 'aliexpress CPU' and see what people have got.

Theo
Jeff Gaines
2024-11-17 14:07:08 UTC
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Post by Jeff Gaines
I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P motherboard.
I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via eBay but there are
Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them as well.
I'm in the market for an i7-6700k. They crop up every day on ebay.
(taking my time because the going rate is 50 quid and I'm not in a hurry)
Were you buying them and finding they don't work, or something else?
Hi Theo.

Yes, ended up with a duff and dithering about trying a Chinese one from
Amazon.

Anyway, refund agreed for duff and have today ordered another. Prices now
just under £40 although there is one for £24.99 sold as "faulty, parts
only"!
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Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
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Nick Odell
2024-11-17 12:05:21 UTC
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Post by Jeff Gaines
I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P motherboard.
I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via eBay but there are
Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them as well.
Anybody know if these are likely to be real, one of the pictures looks
exactly the same as an Intel one but it doesn't have "Intel" printed on it.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that some of these shonky
processors have escaped into the wild:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/15/lenovo_china_slow_laptop/

Nick
wasbit
2024-11-18 09:54:47 UTC
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Post by Jeff Gaines
I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P
motherboard. I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via
eBay but there are Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them
as well.
Anybody know if these are likely to be real, one of the pictures looks
exactly the same as an Intel one but it doesn't have "Intel" printed on it.
Why oh why would you take a chance? You are just opening yourself up to
a world of future worry.
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wasbit
Paul
2024-11-18 20:44:37 UTC
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I have a problem with a new build based round the Asus Z170-P motherboard. I am struggling to get a working used Intel i7 6700 via eBay but there are Chinese ones advertised as new, Amazon carries them as well.
Anybody know if these are likely to be real, one of the pictures looks exactly the same as an Intel one but it doesn't have "Intel" printed on it.
You can find pictures of them.

https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-i7-6700-3-4Ghz-Socket-Skylake/dp/B015FUPN8S

"SR2L2"

A search on SR2L2 on the ark site, takes me here.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/88196/intel-core-i7-6700-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

Paul

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